As pretty much everyone knows by now, Verizon and Bell South have denied handing over records of their customers’ domestic calls to the National Security Agency. Meanwhile, USA Today, which broke the story last week, stands by its assertions.
Some liberal bloggers have done a good job here and here and here of parsing the company statements and considering the situation. Meanwhile, conservative bloggers are quoting the companies and claiming that the USA Today story is falling apart. Oh yes, and a class action lawsuit has been filed against the telecom companies.
What’s definite?
The former head of Qwest said his company was asked to hand over the records. Qwest refused. Either something happened, or this fellow is hallucinating.
What’s interesting?
Neither Bush nor any of his spokes-folk have ever denied that such a program and database of domestic calls exists. They just keep denying that purely domestic calls are being wiretapped without warrants. That’s like being asked about whether you shot any rabbits for dinner and answering by firmly denying that you’ve ever shot a deer. That wasn’t the question, Bushies.
What’s true?
The NSA is working without oversight. This means we don’t know the extent to which Bush has allowed (or ordered) the agency to ignore the FISA law, which requires a warrant from a secret court. We don’t really know that he hasn’t. However, we do know that Congressional committees, up to this point, haven’t been briefed as fully as they were in the past (or at all), and we know that no one is really watching with Bush and friends are doing. If this is all so legal, why not go to the FISA court, which rarely denies a warrant and can even issue warrants retroactively?
What’s absolutely true?
Tomorrow morning senators, the news media and all the rest of us average citizens will get our first good look at Air Force Gen. Michael V. Hayden, who ran these programs (or is alleged to have run these non-program programs) at the NSA. That’s when the Senate Intelligence Committee will hold its first hearing on Hayden’s confirmation to be the next head of the CIA.
Those hearings, the lawsuit, continuing reporting and a host of other factors are sure to keep this issue alive. Thus, here’s the one true thing we know: This isn’t even close to being over yet.



First, there is a little gem floating around that I wish to share: "There are three boxes used to defend liberty: ballot box, jury box, ammo box. They are to be accessed in that order.
I would argue, in fact, that we are very nearly ready for step three. Sexuality is one area that has become unbearably oppressive, but there are others: Eminent domain, the drug "war", all of the infrastructure that comprises our "laws for money" system, the acid-like erosion of civil liberties; Sadly, I can go on.
The worst part is the complete feeling of helplessness. There is absolutely no venue or means available to me, as a citizen of only average resources, to have any real effect upon the situation. I can speak to like-minded individuals, as I am here, but aside from outright revolt, what am I accomplishing? You already agree with my distress over the extant situation.
It is truly a sad time to live in for those who value freedom and liberty, as I do.
Ben
An interesting question, due in no small part to the fact that many have been faced with situations where a sour debate ended with one or both sides wondering if the other person was even listening. Sometimes, following a discussion, argument, or debate with a person with extreme conservative, religious views, I walk away, shaking my head and wondering how a person could possibly think that stuff. And if they actually heard or understood anything I just said.
Let's assume for the moment that the answer is no, that zealots pay no attention to logic or reason, and believe what they may, in defiance of empirical data. Then how does positive change ever occur?
The answer, I think, lies with children. These zealots are parents... too old, too invested, too hardwired to change their ways. Maybe they are in a rut, or maybe they can't change. It is the children, modern children, with unlimited access to information. Though influenced by irrational parents, they are gradually introduced to and influenced by different points of view, and reach the only logical conclusion.
Of course, this has been going on for years, independent of contemporary technology. Maybe it just happens faster now.
Either way, the conversation must keep going, else the next generation will have nothing to read. But it is not at all difficult to imagine that there are many, if not most, of my ultra right-wing implacable peers who hardly listen or think at all, and certainly can't be convinced of anything.